I am always in favor of forgiveness, but you can forgive without becoming besties with someone. Trust is a totally different issue, and it has to be earned and that does not happen overnight and may never happen. Prince William tried to talk to Harry as a concerned brother, wanting him to take his time and totally prepare Megan for Royal life. Harry reacted with anger, and it only got worse from there. I personally do not trust Meagan. She is a manipulator and controls the narrative in her family. I do not think she ever had any intention of following royal protocols. It has nothing to do with race and more to do with her character or lack thereof. It's not her style. She wanted the title of princess and that was her way of getting it...then she moved back to her life expecting everyone to look up to her because of a title. Like trust, titles are earned and she in no more a princess than I am. Harry was looking for acceptance and unfortunately found it in the wrong place. I am sure he loves and misses the country and family who raised him but in a stubborn fit of " I will do it my way" he has lost more than he will ever gain from his marriage. Let's face it Hollywood marriages do not have a good track record. Harry will be the biggest loser when they split and the odds favor that outcome, unfortunately. Meagan has an inflated value of herself, and I don't see any of her attempts to become relevant ever succeeding. She has no talent and certainly is not princess material. Just saying!!!
Once again the question of race is mentioned. Why? It was M herself who brought the matter up, I would not have realised she was a ' woman of colour' if she had not kept going on about it. It is the person she is that is the problem & that is not very nice, & what turned the British public away from her.
If there were fairies & tiptoeing in the tulips then I may agree to this post!!! It is like a fairytale. The sweet loving California couple!! What a joke. There is nothing agreeable in this article!!! Sorry 😐
I hear many say things like it is time to forgive Harry. My belief forgiveness has to be asked for and repentance shown. I have not seen any of that from Harry. In fact, I have heard he is asking the RF to ask for his forgiveness. I understand everyone has their own experiences, but it feels to me that when you are talking about family, you work it out with them before going on National TV and writing a book. As the wonderful Queen stated, " recollections differ."
I am firmly in the camp of "no" - too much nastiness in what both of them have said, continue to say, write and continuing to blur the line between appropriate and inapproprite leverage of their royal status and commercial enterprises. That interview with BBC and Harry's vitriolic comments about the Royal Household and his father crossed yet another line in their tunnel vision of themselves as self-appointed arbiters of anything related to the royal family and the duties and responsibilities of members of the family and of the "institutuon". Take the example of HRH the Duchess of Kent who in her later years asked to have her HRH status removed. presented herself as an "ordinary" person, asked and received from the Queen permission to convert to Catholiciasm, never leveraged herself (or the Duke) to gain commercial success (even though they lost siginificant financial resources). She, and the Duke, are exemplary examples of how a senior royal family member should act, never cause scandal or controversy, and fully support the reigning monarch and the heir to the throne - Harry and Meghan do none of this!
This is a tough one for me. I try to take what I hear in the media with a grain of salt, as most media is biased; however, things that I heard were mentioned in the book, ie, Harry and Williams' fight that got physical and Harry got pushed into the dog dish.....hello, have you ever heard of brother relationships? That is just the life of being a sibling, that things get heated, and with guys, then shoving starts. The whole curtsy comment by Meghan and the mocking of that......it is all just unnecessary. (Just two of many examples) Truthfully, until such a big deal was made about it, I didn't think of Meghan being black. It is hard to argue with some of the commentary/video, and photos that you see right now. Was she even pregnant? Did she ever really have a miscarriage? I believe Meghan and Harry, to some extent, thought they were going to be the change makers in the Royal Family, and it didn't go their way. William and Catherine have brought about some change in how their children have been raised, and they seem like happy well adjusted kids. Charlotte is going to be the "Spare." I can never see her acting like her Uncle has. I would need to see a lot of apology from them to trust them, and they have never asked, as far as I know, to be forgiven. Hard to forgive someone who hasn't asked for it, and therefore, we don't even know if they feel that anything they have done is wrong.
Yes, my brother, sister and I regularly "scrapped"! But, we would always support and defend each other "to the outside world"! When we married, there was always the innocent chatter of "what the baby will look like", will he/she get the "big nose", The red hair. the skin tones of someone not "nordic" who "married in" to the family - no one ever took offense! I sure wish I could have received the long dark eyelashes of one of my southern European relatives, the blue eyes of another, etc. - this stuff is all self-centered nonsense!
You are grossly misinterpreting the story of the prodigal son. In that case, the son recognized the wrongs he had done. Harry simply keeps attacking under the veil of very mild regret he has lost the perks he threw away.
There was one particular moment at their wedding, when our late Queen’s face said it all. She knew right from the first moment that things weren’t going to go well…..and she was right!
Forgiveness is spiritual, no body can do it for them. Remember the prodigal son? His father forgave him and welcome him back into his kingdom. Now Harry had every right to protect his family, if his dad had protected Lady Diana like Harry did to Megan, our forever princess Diana would be alive today. We all take the ultimate measures to protect our family and he did just so. Harry is human and have feelings like like all of us humans and I pray earnestly that his father, brother will forgive him and he too will forgive them because thus didn't happen one sided, to every action there is a reaction. Now Harry even if no other people in your family want to forgive you or be your family again, be happy that your dad did. I love you so much cause you are the true spirit of your mother, compassionate and caring. Continue to protect your family because they are who God almighty blessed you with. Stay strong and please people out there leave the man and his wife alone and look through y'all closet and then cast the first stone if you have no sins, faults and failings. Harry and Megan may our almighty Creator bless you and your family I pray.
Remember, it was not Prince Charles's responsibility to determine and be in charge of Diana's security. It was she who made the decision to let go of the full security package that would have protected her. This was over the objections of the Royal Household - so that nothing like this tragic accident with a drunk driver employed by Dodi Fayed would happen!
Lol.....mocking the Queen your Grandmother/ Grandmother in-law is not wrong. Even in a family that is not the royal family that would be considered disrespectful. Profiting in a big way from airing dirty laundry about your family is not wrong? Especially when you know they have a culture of not commenting/ defending. A host of other ways that they know they have been disrespectful. Saying you are going to keep your wife and your family out of the lime light and then every time you turn around they are doing the opposite.
As far as I knew, the Royal family welcomed Meghan with open arms. I never knew about the racism or the online trolls threatening Meghan until recently. If I was in Meghan's shoes, I would have asked for help from other commoners who married into the Royal family. I would have spent at least two years living in England, getting to know what life is like in England before the wedding. I felt really sad for George, Charlotte and Louis because as far as I know, they never got the chance to meet or know Archie and Lily. Growing up in Hollywood is a very different world from growing up in England. I think part of the problem was the culture shock.
Wondering if it would have been possible for Meghan to do what the Duchess of Kent did in returning to private life and Harry could continue participating in Royal life? The Duchess, who passed away on the 4th of September, became a music teacher and had a relatively private life while her husband the Duke continued to be active in official Royal events. I could see Meghan teaching Calligraphy or Baking classes.
Only problem with that scenario is that Meghan will never want a "private life." She is totally an attention grabber with no comprehension of what the monarchy is about. Being in the spotlight is her goal in life.
there is confusion here because Meghan did say she wanted privacy then she does the Oprah interview, which tells me that we do not really know what is really going on. I do not want to cast aspirations about this young couple. I really feel sad for them and their beautiful family. I cannot imagine how the Queen and Prince Philip felt. How now King Charles, Prince William and Princess Catherine feel. How George and Charlotte, who are old enough to remember them, feel.
It’s hard believe that all Meghan and Harry want is privacy when they have been doing everything in their power to stay in the spotlight. Some readers seem to think that all they want is a small cottage where they can raise their kids and act like nuns in the local community, when clearly they are seeking far, far more.
Yes, I agree! She wants to have it both ways! And all of the photo privacy stuff! William and Katherine have threaded the dualities of public duty and private family time beautifully! That they take the time to have selective full-faced photos of themselves and their 3 chuldren shared publicy has worked!
Great to see Harry back. If he had received the support from his father that he so badly needed, he would not have felt he had to leave. As for his book SPARE I have read it, and frankly I don't know what all the fuss is about. Harry only wrote the truth, since when has speaking the truth been so bad. I think Harry is great, well done him. And it's about time William stop believing like a spoilt five year old and reunite with his brother. Brothers should stick together though all that life throws at them. It what there darling Mother Diana would have wanted. So Charles get your ask together and bring our Harry back into the family where he belongs.
Forgiveness is spiritual, no body can do it for them. Remember the prodigal son? His father forgave him and welcome him back into his kingdom. Now Harry had every right to protect his family, if his dad had protected Lady Diana like Harry did to Megan, our forever princess Diana would be alive today. We all take the ultimate measures to protect our family and he did just so. Harry is human and have feelings like like all of us humans and I pray earnestly that his father, brother will forgive him and he too will forgive them because thus didn't happen one sided, to every action there is a reaction. Now Harry even if no other people in your family want to forgive you or be your family again, be happy that your dad did. I love you so much cause you are the true spirit of your mother, compassionate and caring. Continue to protect your family because they are who God almighty blessed you with. Stay strong and please people out there leave the man and his wife alone and look through y'all closet and then cast the first stone if you have no sins, faults and failings. Harry and Megan may our almighty Creator bless you and your family I pray.
I am always in favor of forgiveness, but you can forgive without becoming besties with someone. Trust is a totally different issue, and it has to be earned and that does not happen overnight and may never happen. Prince William tried to talk to Harry as a concerned brother, wanting him to take his time and totally prepare Megan for Royal life. Harry reacted with anger, and it only got worse from there. I personally do not trust Meagan. She is a manipulator and controls the narrative in her family. I do not think she ever had any intention of following royal protocols. It has nothing to do with race and more to do with her character or lack thereof. It's not her style. She wanted the title of princess and that was her way of getting it...then she moved back to her life expecting everyone to look up to her because of a title. Like trust, titles are earned and she in no more a princess than I am. Harry was looking for acceptance and unfortunately found it in the wrong place. I am sure he loves and misses the country and family who raised him but in a stubborn fit of " I will do it my way" he has lost more than he will ever gain from his marriage. Let's face it Hollywood marriages do not have a good track record. Harry will be the biggest loser when they split and the odds favor that outcome, unfortunately. Meagan has an inflated value of herself, and I don't see any of her attempts to become relevant ever succeeding. She has no talent and certainly is not princess material. Just saying!!!
This disdain for these two drifters has NOTHING to do with race! They are classless, embarrassing morons. Rock on Prince William.
Once again the question of race is mentioned. Why? It was M herself who brought the matter up, I would not have realised she was a ' woman of colour' if she had not kept going on about it. It is the person she is that is the problem & that is not very nice, & what turned the British public away from her.
If there were fairies & tiptoeing in the tulips then I may agree to this post!!! It is like a fairytale. The sweet loving California couple!! What a joke. There is nothing agreeable in this article!!! Sorry 😐
I hear many say things like it is time to forgive Harry. My belief forgiveness has to be asked for and repentance shown. I have not seen any of that from Harry. In fact, I have heard he is asking the RF to ask for his forgiveness. I understand everyone has their own experiences, but it feels to me that when you are talking about family, you work it out with them before going on National TV and writing a book. As the wonderful Queen stated, " recollections differ."
I am firmly in the camp of "no" - too much nastiness in what both of them have said, continue to say, write and continuing to blur the line between appropriate and inapproprite leverage of their royal status and commercial enterprises. That interview with BBC and Harry's vitriolic comments about the Royal Household and his father crossed yet another line in their tunnel vision of themselves as self-appointed arbiters of anything related to the royal family and the duties and responsibilities of members of the family and of the "institutuon". Take the example of HRH the Duchess of Kent who in her later years asked to have her HRH status removed. presented herself as an "ordinary" person, asked and received from the Queen permission to convert to Catholiciasm, never leveraged herself (or the Duke) to gain commercial success (even though they lost siginificant financial resources). She, and the Duke, are exemplary examples of how a senior royal family member should act, never cause scandal or controversy, and fully support the reigning monarch and the heir to the throne - Harry and Meghan do none of this!
He does not deserve to be welcomed back.
His and Megans mud-slinging is unforgaveable.
After everything that has come out about M and H it is astonishing anyone could sympathize with them in any way. They are both toxic.
This is a tough one for me. I try to take what I hear in the media with a grain of salt, as most media is biased; however, things that I heard were mentioned in the book, ie, Harry and Williams' fight that got physical and Harry got pushed into the dog dish.....hello, have you ever heard of brother relationships? That is just the life of being a sibling, that things get heated, and with guys, then shoving starts. The whole curtsy comment by Meghan and the mocking of that......it is all just unnecessary. (Just two of many examples) Truthfully, until such a big deal was made about it, I didn't think of Meghan being black. It is hard to argue with some of the commentary/video, and photos that you see right now. Was she even pregnant? Did she ever really have a miscarriage? I believe Meghan and Harry, to some extent, thought they were going to be the change makers in the Royal Family, and it didn't go their way. William and Catherine have brought about some change in how their children have been raised, and they seem like happy well adjusted kids. Charlotte is going to be the "Spare." I can never see her acting like her Uncle has. I would need to see a lot of apology from them to trust them, and they have never asked, as far as I know, to be forgiven. Hard to forgive someone who hasn't asked for it, and therefore, we don't even know if they feel that anything they have done is wrong.
Yes, my brother, sister and I regularly "scrapped"! But, we would always support and defend each other "to the outside world"! When we married, there was always the innocent chatter of "what the baby will look like", will he/she get the "big nose", The red hair. the skin tones of someone not "nordic" who "married in" to the family - no one ever took offense! I sure wish I could have received the long dark eyelashes of one of my southern European relatives, the blue eyes of another, etc. - this stuff is all self-centered nonsense!
100% agree!!!
You are grossly misinterpreting the story of the prodigal son. In that case, the son recognized the wrongs he had done. Harry simply keeps attacking under the veil of very mild regret he has lost the perks he threw away.
There was one particular moment at their wedding, when our late Queen’s face said it all. She knew right from the first moment that things weren’t going to go well…..and she was right!
Forgiveness is spiritual, no body can do it for them. Remember the prodigal son? His father forgave him and welcome him back into his kingdom. Now Harry had every right to protect his family, if his dad had protected Lady Diana like Harry did to Megan, our forever princess Diana would be alive today. We all take the ultimate measures to protect our family and he did just so. Harry is human and have feelings like like all of us humans and I pray earnestly that his father, brother will forgive him and he too will forgive them because thus didn't happen one sided, to every action there is a reaction. Now Harry even if no other people in your family want to forgive you or be your family again, be happy that your dad did. I love you so much cause you are the true spirit of your mother, compassionate and caring. Continue to protect your family because they are who God almighty blessed you with. Stay strong and please people out there leave the man and his wife alone and look through y'all closet and then cast the first stone if you have no sins, faults and failings. Harry and Megan may our almighty Creator bless you and your family I pray.
Sorry, not this time...
Remember, it was not Prince Charles's responsibility to determine and be in charge of Diana's security. It was she who made the decision to let go of the full security package that would have protected her. This was over the objections of the Royal Household - so that nothing like this tragic accident with a drunk driver employed by Dodi Fayed would happen!
To be forgiven, they need to believe they have done something wrong. I don't believe they feel they have done anything wrong.
I don't think they have done any thing wrong, since when has protecting your loved ones, and speaking the truth, been wrong.
Lol.....mocking the Queen your Grandmother/ Grandmother in-law is not wrong. Even in a family that is not the royal family that would be considered disrespectful. Profiting in a big way from airing dirty laundry about your family is not wrong? Especially when you know they have a culture of not commenting/ defending. A host of other ways that they know they have been disrespectful. Saying you are going to keep your wife and your family out of the lime light and then every time you turn around they are doing the opposite.
Oh, please...
As far as I knew, the Royal family welcomed Meghan with open arms. I never knew about the racism or the online trolls threatening Meghan until recently. If I was in Meghan's shoes, I would have asked for help from other commoners who married into the Royal family. I would have spent at least two years living in England, getting to know what life is like in England before the wedding. I felt really sad for George, Charlotte and Louis because as far as I know, they never got the chance to meet or know Archie and Lily. Growing up in Hollywood is a very different world from growing up in England. I think part of the problem was the culture shock.
Wondering if it would have been possible for Meghan to do what the Duchess of Kent did in returning to private life and Harry could continue participating in Royal life? The Duchess, who passed away on the 4th of September, became a music teacher and had a relatively private life while her husband the Duke continued to be active in official Royal events. I could see Meghan teaching Calligraphy or Baking classes.
Only problem with that scenario is that Meghan will never want a "private life." She is totally an attention grabber with no comprehension of what the monarchy is about. Being in the spotlight is her goal in life.
there is confusion here because Meghan did say she wanted privacy then she does the Oprah interview, which tells me that we do not really know what is really going on. I do not want to cast aspirations about this young couple. I really feel sad for them and their beautiful family. I cannot imagine how the Queen and Prince Philip felt. How now King Charles, Prince William and Princess Catherine feel. How George and Charlotte, who are old enough to remember them, feel.
It’s hard believe that all Meghan and Harry want is privacy when they have been doing everything in their power to stay in the spotlight. Some readers seem to think that all they want is a small cottage where they can raise their kids and act like nuns in the local community, when clearly they are seeking far, far more.
Yes, I agree! She wants to have it both ways! And all of the photo privacy stuff! William and Katherine have threaded the dualities of public duty and private family time beautifully! That they take the time to have selective full-faced photos of themselves and their 3 chuldren shared publicy has worked!
Please no. They will just continue to 'ooze' back into the royal family and smirk their way to new relationships.
Great to see Harry back. If he had received the support from his father that he so badly needed, he would not have felt he had to leave. As for his book SPARE I have read it, and frankly I don't know what all the fuss is about. Harry only wrote the truth, since when has speaking the truth been so bad. I think Harry is great, well done him. And it's about time William stop believing like a spoilt five year old and reunite with his brother. Brothers should stick together though all that life throws at them. It what there darling Mother Diana would have wanted. So Charles get your ask together and bring our Harry back into the family where he belongs.
Forgiveness is spiritual, no body can do it for them. Remember the prodigal son? His father forgave him and welcome him back into his kingdom. Now Harry had every right to protect his family, if his dad had protected Lady Diana like Harry did to Megan, our forever princess Diana would be alive today. We all take the ultimate measures to protect our family and he did just so. Harry is human and have feelings like like all of us humans and I pray earnestly that his father, brother will forgive him and he too will forgive them because thus didn't happen one sided, to every action there is a reaction. Now Harry even if no other people in your family want to forgive you or be your family again, be happy that your dad did. I love you so much cause you are the true spirit of your mother, compassionate and caring. Continue to protect your family because they are who God almighty blessed you with. Stay strong and please people out there leave the man and his wife alone and look through y'all closet and then cast the first stone if you have no sins, faults and failings. Harry and Megan may our almighty Creator bless you and your family I pray.